Leo and Zeurkous - Retards in the Raw

These messages progress from earliest received to latest received, starting with the first by Leo. The first is a couple quotes of a conversation he had with Xaleros.

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Sender: Leo T_C_K
To: Jaden Darchon VII
Standard Subject: Fwd: Let''s have it roll
Date: Jan 20th, 2017 at 11:11pm
Leo T_C_K wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 10:50pm:
Xaleros wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 10:41pm:
That might've been a bit much.

I don't really agree with many of the points Trump campaigned around, but makemeunreal is pretty spot on with the whole "ultra-liberalism" thing. A lot of liberals these days will kick and scream like children if someone so much as disagrees with them on a single thing. It's no wonder the democratic party lost the election.

I don't see a single thing here that implies gay-bashing in any way.

You don't get it. I have a history with him. I know where he's coming from. He bashed gays on irc channels and stuff and later was shocked when he saw me being friends with guys he thought below my level or when he found out about my orientation. Since then it's been a roll. Your choice now. Either continue to criticize me or join my fight.


Leo T_C_K wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 11:06pm:
Xaleros wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 10:58pm:
I didn't even criticize you, I just stated what was on my mind after reading the topic. I don't know about the history between you two and frankly, I don't really care at this point.

That seems to be a common theme. You don't give people a chance to explain their point of view. You automatically assume one thing or another and glue yourself to it. You assumed that I was criticizing you even though I wasn't.

I don't believe this was the case in every instance, but maybe this is why you were banned from so many different sites before. Because you would attack people based on what appears to be a hunch. Because it always seems like there's this "holier than thou" mentality going on. "I know where he's coming from" or "You don't get it." No, I don't get it, but if you didn't like what he said, then don't post, don't give him attention, simple as that. Not everything has to be some grand crusade.

I'm really trying to give you a chance despite what other people have said and you are making that difficult for me. Do whatever you'd like, I'll be getting back to my work.

No, you still don't get it. And you can just kiss your ass. Because I know that all these years all that you thought of me is that I blow everything out of proportions. But if people fought and protested like me then there wouldn't be such a mess around.

Who's talking now? If anyone "they" made a crusade against me. And sometimes you're the aid yourself.

So what's talking now? Your sense of pride? I better stick to my opinions and not flail around like a coward.

Who's judging me based on what OTHER PEOPLE HAVE SAID and listened to ronin's BS for YEARS without even talking to me and WRITING ME OFF?!

You did! So don't crappity smacking tell me that. You already refused to give me a "chance" back then. Let alone now.


Leo T_C_K wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 11:07pm:
You also sound like a hypocrite given the photo-shopped images you've been posting aroun and trolling people...wasn't that a bit "too much"?

How can you be in a position to judge someone, huh?

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Sender: Leo T_C_K
To: Jaden Darchon VII
Standard Subject: Re: Let''s have it roll
Date: Feb 1st, 2017 at 2:18am
Jaden Darchon VII wrote on Jan 31st, 2017 at 8:56pm:
Well I've always known Xal to be a very reasonable and down to earth kind of person. I think there's something to be said about calmly and rationally replying to people instead of biting their heads off in rapid succession. That being said MMU is a moron so crappity smack him.

Are you referring to me when talking about biting heads off in rapid succession? Also that's a pretty late reply...

I think you're all a little bit crazy, don't you think? I've heard you sometimes hang around with him on teamspeak which otherwise seems to be full of disgusting stuff. Criticizing me seems to not go well together with what's often going on there. Neither being accused of acting with "holier than thou" attitude. So what side are you really standing at? Well I guess sometimes when you get a little push then it's like gravity, like the joker said to batman.

And I felt that people like gopostal just go give that push, enough to go over the edge.

I don't feel "holy" at all, at least not these days. Yet so many of you act like its the other way. But I do have my tastes and I know my limits. That's all I have to say. But I don't think anyone of you is in position to really judge me at this point given everything.

Most of what I said could just well apply to me as it does to you. So why all the gripe huh?

But I do have my reasons why I get angry when it comes down to that and quite frankly you only know a fraction of them. Still, trying to understand rather than putting me "on fire" would help sometimes you know.

But whatever, perhaps it's useless talking all about this. Because in the end you'll see something as a weakness and the other side of you wins.
Because internally you'll laugh about it.

You know that it's true.

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Sender: Leo T_C_K
To: Jaden Darchon VII
Standard Subject: RE: Let''s have it roll
Date: Feb 1st, 2017 at 11:03am
Jaden Darchon VII wrote on Jan 31st, 2017 at 8:56pm:
Well I've always known Xal to be a very reasonable and down to earth kind of person.


I don't know him at all.

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I think there's something to be said about calmly and rationally replying to people instead of biting their heads off in rapid succession.


As it happens, I can do both.

Most human attempts at 'rationality' soon descend into plain indifference. We're not all compliant city dwellers or Bohemian[1] head-downers, y'know.

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That being said MMU is a moron so crappity smack him.


Was fun to watch his reaction upon realizing that I'm a guy. In his mind, I was leo's mate, and leo's a guy, so I had to be female...
         --zeur.

[1] We've been to Silesia again. The difference in the respective attitudes of the humans is quite striking.
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Sender: Jaden Darchon VII
To: Leo T_C_K
Standard Subject: Re: Let''s have it roll
Date: Feb 1st, 2017 at 6:51pm
Leo T_C_K wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 2:18am:
Jaden Darchon VII wrote on Jan 31st, 2017 at 8:56pm:
Well I've always known Xal to be a very reasonable and down to earth kind of person. I think there's something to be said about calmly and rationally replying to people instead of biting their heads off in rapid succession. That being said MMU is a moron so crappity smack him.

Are you referring to me when talking about biting heads off in rapid succession? Also that's a pretty late reply...

I think you're all a little bit crazy, don't you think? I've heard you sometimes hang around with him on teamspeak which otherwise seems to be full of disgusting stuff. Criticizing me seems to not go well together with what's often going on there. Neither being accused of acting with "holier than thou" attitude. So what side are you really standing at? Well I guess sometimes when you get a little push then it's like gravity, like the joker said to batman.

And I felt that people like gopostal just go give that push, enough to go over the edge.

I don't feel "holy" at all, at least not these days. Yet so many of you act like its the other way. But I do have my tastes and I know my limits. That's all I have to say. But I don't think anyone of you is in position to really judge me at this point given everything.

Most of what I said could just well apply to me as it does to you. So why all the gripe huh?

But I do have my reasons why I get angry when it comes down to that and quite frankly you only know a fraction of them. Still, trying to understand rather than putting me "on fire" would help sometimes you know.

But whatever, perhaps it's useless talking all about this. Because in the end you'll see something as a weakness and the other side of you wins.
Because internally you'll laugh about it.

You know that it's true.
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Yeah, no. GP had no "evil influence" over me and I think for myself. Over the years I've noticed on my own your generally explosive, maddeningly obsessive paranoia about this "us" and "them." It seems now that I've offered even the slightest criticism (i.e. going rabid on people over the smallest of things) you've categorized me (or begun to) into "them."

Trying to be a "friend" of any metric with you is akin to walking a tightrope over a laser-eye shark infested pool of hydrochloric acid while being targeted by 50 cal autoturrets. In other words, pretty crappity smacking hard! Too hard to care anymore! It's no wonder your acquaintances back off so frequently. You have to watch every word you say and offer zero dissent or you spiral into a fit of paranoia and (vicious) name-calling.

You know what really pushed me over the edge this time? Seeing how you shit all over a heartfelt act by GP for a fellow human being. Incredible. You know, to this very day, I still remember that time I broke down crying in the lab I was working at after being endlessly berated by you guys for supposedly feeding some police state by working in a school lab. I see that nothing has crappity smacking changed.

Peace be with you and here's to hoping somewhere in that diseased hulk of flesh you find a shred of humanity to justify your existence. We're crappity smacking done!

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Sender: Leo T_C_K
To: Jaden Darchon VII
Standard Subject: RE: Let''s have it roll
Date: Feb 1st, 2017 at 7:02pm
zeur here.

Jaden Darchon VII wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 6:51pm:
[snip pcube acting tough, but being a wuss]


You're really such a pussy at times. WTF are you still doing on the Internet? You just can't handle it!
         --zeur.

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Sender: Leo T_C_K
To: Jaden Darchon VII
Standard Subject: RE: Let''s have it roll
Date: Feb 1st, 2017 at 7:22pm
Jaden Darchon VII wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 7:21pm:
LOL. Says the guy that can't handle real life.


ROFL, if only you'd know. If only. Only I don't generally boast about it.
        --zeur.

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Sender: Leo T_C_K
To: Jaden Darchon VII
Standard Subject: RE: Let''s have it roll
Date: Feb 1st, 2017 at 7:25pm
Jaden Darchon VII wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 7:24pm:
That exact crappity smacking instant, I knew you were braindead and proceeded to axe the friendshiT.


w/ever.
        --zeur.

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Sender: Jaden Darchon VII
To: Leo T_C_K
Standard Subject: Re: RE: Let''s have it roll
Date: Feb 1st, 2017 at 7:28pm
By the way, zeur? If you actually loved Leo, instead of catering to his madness you'd Do The Right Thing and try to help him. But you're too big of a pussy to do that, aren't you? Heh. Food for thought! Wink

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